Talk:Scorers

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Updates[edit]

Is anyone working on updating this list fully with all state scores, or should I get on it? LitanyOfBoredom (talk) 00:11, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Literally just got the full 9k list from California, so I'll be taking care of that in the next few days! :) TinDefacto (talk) 19:17, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Ties[edit]

Do we need the (tie) note next to the decathlete’s ranking if the score they are tied with is not counted (because the other student set a higher score that year)? LitanyOfBoredom (talk) 17:17, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't see a reason why we should. I hadn't realized that my spreadsheet was outputting like that. For instance, Nolan Origer's highest (and only) score this year tied with Sean Wejebe's 2012 State score, but since Wejebe scored higher that year, Origer wasn't really tying anything. I think we should get rid of it, and I will try to program that out of my spreadsheet sometime next week! I also need to fix the pileup that happens at 9,225... Thanks for pointing this out!! TinDefacto (talk) 17:56, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

FINALLY got around to fixing (and updating) the spreadsheet -- removed those extra "(tie)" occurrences and fixed the issue at 9,225! :D Let me know if you see any other issues! TinDefacto (talk) 15:42, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Top School Scores[edit]

Hey, for all-time team scores, I have a list of all the teams I believe have reached 50k. Not sure if it is complete, but I have 24 teams on there. It's set as teams, not scores, otherwise lots of repeats. Should we have a page dedicated to that? Just throwing it out thereStanley Tree 10:27, 18 March 2008 (PDT)

  • I think it would be interesting to have a top scorers page for teams. I mean, this IS a team event so team efforts should be celebrated too right? I'm thinking similar strictures should but imposed though. Things like only one score per term per year. e.g. Pearland would only be on there once for their regional score because it's the highest instead of having both their regional and state score posted for this year. Also, I think you're right on 50k being the proper cutoff. - Adam 16:49, 19 March 2008 (PDT)

Discussion about duplicate individuals[edit]

can frank soberanis hold both bronze and gold for varsity? if the page is dedicated to scorers, not the scores themselves. since frank is one person, he should appear only under gold.

similarly, Ian is both 6th and 7th for scholastic, and Greta appears twice on the 9000 list.

i agree. Also, what is with Chris Chou's score? the zero is in different places in the over 9k list and in the top 10 list. Drewbacca 23:04, 17 May 2007 (PDT)

  • Checked with the old wiki, looks like the proper score should be 9160 at nationals. Removed the wrong score. -gil 23:33, 17 May 2007 (PDT)


NEW RULE (Instituted with Scorers for 2007-2008 and beyond)

Due to the Amount of Complaints, the Top Scorers system will have this rule added.

If A student obtains two or more top 10 scores in their category in the same year, only the TOP score will count in the top ten list.

If a student obtains two or more top 10 scores in the same category in different years, ALL qualifying scores will count since the curriculum changes significantly enough to declare the scores to be independent of each other, and not just steady progress.

People who break 9000 will be recorded in the list every time they break 9000. We will now track the number of people breaking 9000 as well as the number of occurrences 9000 or higher has been obtained.

KortEverettJackson 01:37, 20 May 2007 (PDT) NOTE: SUBJECT TO APPROVAL.

I think if this new rule is going to be instituted, it should be used for older scores as well as scores from 2007-08 and beyond. If no one else from now on can have two spots for the same year, Frank Soberanis shouldn't either.

Also, is Greta Baranowski the only person ever to break 9000 more than once? She's the only one on this list. I thought DemiDec Dan had broken 9000 at nationals as well as city. Akwdb 17:57, 11 June 2007 (PDT)

I agree with paragraph one of Will's above comment.

As to the second, in all probability, more people than one broke 9000 multiple times. however, according to the information that we have, no one else has (I also heard that DDD broke 9000 at nationals, but do we have a record of that?). PPaterson 18:06, 10 August 2007 (PDT)PPaterson

a couple of things: -i still think we should change the Frank thing -is the green background necessary now that there is a top scorer at nationals section? PPaterson 18:49, 31 August 2007 (PDT)

.... david ross florey was indeed overall national champion in 1987:

"An amazing element of this year's contest: David Florey, entered as a 'C' or varsity student, actually earned the greatest total number of individual points in the entire competition --earning a startling 8,936 points out of a possible 10,000. Interestingly, the next closest individual student total was the honors/gold winner Michael Galvin with 8,572 points."

also, according to http://www.clarke.k12.ga.us/do/teacherClassView?id=45873, chris chou was over 9000 at both state and nationals in 1998. Kxt 08:12, 20 September 2007 (PDT)

.... Where was the information obtained about David Florey? At Marshall HS, our records indicate that his score was around 8,500 points. --Tcolberg 23:16, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

.... found it in a search on some news database through ASU. you can probably duplicate. Kxt 23:24, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

My Interpretation (and rationale), plus clarification:[edit]

I think people can have more than one score on the Top Scorers list if and only if the multiple scores was achieved in different years.

Example: Decathlete 1 Scores 9,200 and 9,100 in two different competitions during the same year.

RESULT: Only the 9,200 counts. The 9,100 will not be entered into the top scorers list, although since it is an occurence of a 9,000 break, both will go into the 9,000's list.

Why?: Because the curriculum doesn't change in the middle of the year.

Decathlete 2 Scores 9,250 and 9,075 in two different competitions, but in two separate years.

RESULT: Both of the scores will be put onto the top scorers list, should they both qualify.

Why?: Because the curriculum changes every year, and since the overwhelming majority of the USAD content from year to year is vastly different, achieving two top scores in two different years is quite a momentous accomplishment, and both should be honored as separate records.

KortEverettJackson 09:30, 7 February 2008 (PST) Note: Subject to approval.

Backing up my addition of Kris Sankaran[edit]

Here's my source for adding Kris Sankaran in case anyone feels they need justification: Ventura County Star - Adam 12:03, 7 February 2008 (PST)

D I, II, III top scorers?[edit]

would anyone be upset or offended if i made a list of the top 10 D I, II, and III scorers of all time? PPaterson 23:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I've got nothing against it, but I don't know how you'd manage it. It would be nearly impossible to get scores before 2001 or so. If you have the scores though, then by all means add them. - Adam 13:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I've been away for so long. School and AcaDecTalk really does keep you busy. I say why the hay not? If you've got 'em, we can use them. The more complete a database we posess, the better off in the long run we will be.  :) KortEverettJackson 14:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
k, i'll get started on collecting the data. PPaterson 20:41, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Added the top 5 in each division without breaking down for gpa categories. As might have been expected, the overwhelming majority are honors. I'll be keeping close tabs on this year's competition; i have a strong suspicion several records will be broken. PPaterson 07:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

The one in DIII from north penn isn't true, north penn is a very large school. I'm not sure about CCC though.

LOL, pretty sure Patrick just made this list so he could be on the page somewhere. But that's OK, it's a valuable thing to have. Akwdb 04:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

So I was looking for a 5th d-II (which I found), and I found out that Andrew Miller from North Prep in IL was also d-III

Texas top scorers[edit]

Can we get a top scorers for each of the large states (Cali, TX, AZ, PA if we can)? I will be getting a lot more scores for TX soon.Stanley Tree 01:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

PA? why them instead of like wisconsin or illinois? or is it the close competition you're looking for? PPaterson 07:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I was just using an example; any state with a decent amount of info should be fine Stanley Tree 07:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Record Decathletes[edit]

I've already typed out the code for a page listing all people who were at one point the highest scorer in Academic Decathlon history, but do you think we need it? If so, where on this page would I put the link? Madcap 05:38, 19 May 2009 (UTC)Madcap

Right in front of the top division scorersStanley Tree 05:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)